Monday, March 10, 2008

Science vs. God

I got this from a friend and I had to post it somewhere. It's one of those things that makes you take a moment and think.

> Science vs. God
>
> 'Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.' The atheist
> professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new
> students to stand.
>
> 'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
>
> 'Yes sir,' the student says.
>
> 'So you believe in God?'
>
> 'Absolutely.'
>
> 'Is God good?'
>
> 'Sure! God's good.'
>
> 'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
>
> 'Yes.'
>
> 'Are you good or evil?'
>
> 'The Bible says I'm evil.'
>
> The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment.
>
> 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can
> cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'
>
> 'Yes sir, I would.'
>
> 'So you're good...!'
>
> 'I wouldn't say that.'
>
> 'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could.
> Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
>
> The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does
> he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to
> Jesus to heal him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'
>
> The student remains silent.
>
> 'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a
> glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
>
> 'Let's start again, young fella Is God good?'
>
> 'Er...yes,' the student says.
>
> 'Is Satan good?'

> The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
>
> 'Then where does Satan come from?'
>
> The student : 'From...God...'
>
> 'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in
> this world?'
>
> 'Yes, sir.'
>
> 'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'
>
> 'Yes.'
>
> 'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything,
> then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle
> that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

> Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues: 'Is there
> sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they
> exist in this world?'
>
> The student: 'Yes.'
>
> 'So who created them?'
>
> The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
> 'Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
> away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
>
> 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus
> Christ, son?'
>
> The student's voice is confident: 'Yes, professor, I do.'
>
> The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to
> identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'
>
> 'No sir. I've never seen Him'
>
> 'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
>
> 'No, sir, I have not.'
>
> 'Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your
> Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for
> that matter?'
>
> 'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
>
> 'Yet you still believe in him?'
>
> 'Yes.'
>
> 'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protoc ol,
> science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'
>
> 'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'
>
> 'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has
> with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'
>
> The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his
> own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'
>
> 'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'
>
> 'And is there such a thing as cold?'
>
> 'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
>
> 'No sir, there isn't.'
>
> The pro fessor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room
> suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.
>
> 'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited
> heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything
> called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat,
> but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold;
> otherwise we would be able to g o colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every
> body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and
> heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero
> (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we
> use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can
> measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of
> heat, sir, just the absence of it.'
>
> Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding
> like a hammer.
>
> 'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
>
> 'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't
> darkness?'
>
> 'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of
> something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
> flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and
> it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the
> word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make
> darkness darker, wouldn't you?'
>
> The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a> good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'
>
> 'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start
> with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
>
> The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you
> explain how?'
>
> 'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You
> argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
> You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
> measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and
> magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To
> view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death
> cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just
> the absence of it.'
>
> 'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
> monkey?'
>
> 'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes,
> of course I do'
>
> 'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

> The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where
> the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
>
> 'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot
> even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching
> your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'
>
> The class is in uproar. The student rema ins silent until the commotion has
> subsided
>
> 'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me
> give you an example of what I mean.'
>
> The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has
> ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.
>
> 'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the
> professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No one appears
> to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical,
> stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all
> due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust
> your lectures, sir?'
>
> Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at t he student, his face
> unreadable.
>
> Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll
> have to take them on faith.'
>
> 'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,'
> the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'
>
> Now uncertain , the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it
> everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in
> the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
> manifestations are nothing else but evil.'
>
> To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
> not exist unto itself Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just
> like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe t he absence
> of God.
>
> God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does
> not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when
> there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
>
> The professor sat down.

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